#26 - All about Spark - Your Brain on Exercise with Dr. John Ratay

Today’s guest is Dr. John Ratay

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We know exercise is “good,” but most people — parents, schools, workplaces — still undervalue movement as a brain tool. John is fixing that gap: he shows that physical activity is not optional wellness, it’s primary neurobiology for mood, learning, stress regulation, and healthy aging.

In today’s conversation John Ratey explores the revolutionary science behind Spark — how movement changes brain chemistry in real time and why it should sit beside therapy and medication for depression, anxiety, ADHD, and even addiction. He tells the Naperville District story, where daily fitness flipped academic outcomes, then connects it to what we now know about BDNF, endocannabinoids, and neurogenesis. John and Dr. Wells go deep on stress reactivity, GABA, and why fitter people are harder to panic. They finish with a vision for a future where we move more, together, outside — because connection and nature amplify everything exercise does.

You will learn how exercise acts like a “smart drug” for the brain — increasing dopamine, norepinephrine, serotonin, endorphins, and endocannabinoids — and why that cocktail can rival meds for mild-to-moderate depression. You will learn how BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor) fertilizes neurons so we can learn faster, remember more, and age better, and why daily movement is the strongest known stimulus for it. You will learn how fitness dampens the stress response by building more GABA-producing cells in the hippocampus, making you less reactive to threat. You will also learn why doing activity with people and in nature multiplies the health effect — the “Spark + Go Wild” equation.

You will discover that exercise doesn’t just make you healthier — it makes you a better learner and a more stable human the very same day you do it. Movement prepares the brain for input.

Leaders, educators, parents, and even clinicians often treat physical activity as the first thing to cut when life gets busy. Ratey’s work shows that’s backward: if you want calmer kids, sharper teams, and more resilient brains, exercise has to go first, not last.



Key take aways:

  1. Move first; the brain learns better afterward.

  2. Fitness lowers anxiety by rewiring stress circuits.

  3. Do exercise with other people, preferably outside.

  4. Exercise is prevention for depression and cognitive decline.

  5. BDNF is brain fertilizer — earn it daily.


Exercise is like taking a little bit of Prozac and a little bit of Ritalin — naturally.
— Dr. John Ratay

Today’s Expert Guest - Dr. John Ratay

Dr. John J. Ratey is a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, an internationally recognized expert in neuropsychiatry, and the bestselling author/coauthor of 12+ books including Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain, Go Wild, and the ADHD classic Driven to Distraction. His work bridges cutting-edge neuroscience with practical lifestyle interventions and has influenced education and health policy around the world.

Dr. Ratey was one of the first psychiatrists to argue — with data — that movement should sit at the core of mental healthcare, not on the periphery. He connects four powerful levers that most people treat separately — exercise, nature, social connection, and play — and shows they all act on the same brain systems, which is why “fitness PE” in Naperville produced both thinner kids and #1-in-the-world science scores. That whole-ecosystem view is what makes his message so usable for schools, companies, and families.

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SPARK: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain

SPARK is a groundbreaking exploration of the connection between exercise and the brain’s performance that shows how even moderate exercise will supercharge mental circuits to beat stress, sharpen thinking, enhance memory, and much more.

SPARK will change forever the way you think about your morning run---or, for that matter, simply the way you think.


This podcast contains advice and information relating to health and wellness. It should be used to supplement rather than replace the advice of your doctor or another trained health professional. If you know or suspect that you have a health problem, seek your physician’s advice before embarking on any medical program or treatment. All efforts have been made to assure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast / interview / article as of the date of publication. The author and publisher disclaim liability for any medical or other outcomes that may occur as a result of applying the methods suggested in this material.

Greg Wells PhD

For Dr. Greg Wells, health and performance, particularly under extreme conditions, are personal and professional obsessions. As a scientist and physiologist, he has dedicated his career to making the science of human limits understandable and actionable. Dr. Wells has spoken to audiences all over the world at events such as TEDx and The Titan Summit, where he has shared the stage with Robin Sharma, Richard Branson, Steve Wozniak and Deepak Chopra.

For over 25 years, Dr. Wells has worked with some of the highest-performing individuals on the planet, including Olympic and World champions, and with organizations ranging from General Electric to BMO, Deloitte, KPMG, BMW, Audi, Sysco Foods, YPO and Air Canada. He is also committed to inspiring children and young adults through his close working relationship with school boards and independent schools.

A veteran endurance athlete, Dr. Wells has participated in the grueling Nanisivik Marathon 600 miles north of the Arctic Circle, Ironman Canada and the Tour D’Afrique, an 11,000 km cycling race that is the longest in the world. He is also a travel and expedition adventurer who has journeyed through every imaginable terrain and conditions in over 50 countries around the world.

Dr. Wells is author of three best-selling books – Superbodies, The Ripple Effect, and The Focus Effect – and hosted the award-winning Superbodies series, which aired on Olympic broadcasts worldwide in 2010 and 2012.

Dr. Wells has a PhD in Physiology, served as an Associate Professor of Kinesiology at the University of Toronto and is an exercise medicine researcher at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto.

He is the CEO and founder of The Wells Group, a global consulting firm committed to achieving the moonshot of helping teams, schools and businesses become places where people get healthy, perform optimally and ultimately - reach their potential.

http://www.drgregwells.com
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