#30 - Why Process Beats Outcome with Olympic Medalist Kylie Masse

Today’s guest is Olympic Medalist Kylie Masse

Today we will learn how to sustain world-class performance under rising expectations—by shifting from outcome obsession to process focus, protecting joy in training, and learning to turn the mind down when it matters most.

In today’s conversation Kylie Masse explores her path from late-developing age-grouper to world record holder and Olympic medalist. She and Dr. Wells unpack why fun and a supportive training group kept her going when results lagged, how “process over outcome” became a competitive superpower, and what a full race day really looks like. Kylie shares practical tactics for managing pressure—balancing school and sport, using music to set state, and recovering like a pro—while aiming at Worlds and the Olympics.

You will learn how elite swimmers structure heavy training loads (8–9 pool sessions/week) alongside school and life; how to recover between heats and finals (warm-down, food, rest, state reset); why focusing on process beats fixating on places and times; how Kylie uses sleep, physio, massage, and compression as a reliable recovery system.

You will discover that thinking less can help you perform more: when the preparation is done, quiet the analysis and let the body execute.

High performers often carry self-imposed pressure that sabotages execution. Kylie’s approach—focus on one thing, one session, one race—gives a repeatable way to reset after bad practices and compete freely on big stages.



Key take aways:

  1. Process beats outcome—every day, every set.

  2. Under pressure, think less; trust training.

  3. Teammates and joy fuel longevity.

  4. Warm-down, eat, rest, repeat between rounds.

  5. Sleep is non-negotiable recovery tech.


The more I think during my race, the more it’s harmful to me.
— Kylie Masse

Today’s Expert Guest - Olympic Medalist Kylie Masse

Kylie Masse is a Canadian backstroke specialist, five-time Olympic medalist, three-time World Champion, and former 100 m backstroke world record holder (58.10 at the 2017 World Championships—the first Canadian woman to win a swimming world title). A University of Toronto alumna and captain with the Toronto Titans (ISL), she medaled in the 100 m and 200 m backstroke at Tokyo 2020 and helped Canada to bronze in the 4×100 medley relay.

Kylie is unusually candid about keeping joy central while training at ruthless volumes. She balances academics and elite sport, uses simple tech (tempo trainer) to convert weight-room power into the water, and treats recovery (sleep, physio, massage, compression) as part of practice—not an afterthought. It’s a grounded blueprint any competitor or parent-coach can copy.

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Greg Wells PhD

For Dr. Greg Wells, health and performance, particularly under extreme conditions, are personal and professional obsessions. As a scientist and physiologist, he has dedicated his career to making the science of human limits understandable and actionable. Dr. Wells has spoken to audiences all over the world at events such as TEDx and The Titan Summit, where he has shared the stage with Robin Sharma, Richard Branson, Steve Wozniak and Deepak Chopra.

For over 25 years, Dr. Wells has worked with some of the highest-performing individuals on the planet, including Olympic and World champions, and with organizations ranging from General Electric to BMO, Deloitte, KPMG, BMW, Audi, Sysco Foods, YPO and Air Canada. He is also committed to inspiring children and young adults through his close working relationship with school boards and independent schools.

A veteran endurance athlete, Dr. Wells has participated in the grueling Nanisivik Marathon 600 miles north of the Arctic Circle, Ironman Canada and the Tour D’Afrique, an 11,000 km cycling race that is the longest in the world. He is also a travel and expedition adventurer who has journeyed through every imaginable terrain and conditions in over 50 countries around the world.

Dr. Wells is author of three best-selling books – Superbodies, The Ripple Effect, and The Focus Effect – and hosted the award-winning Superbodies series, which aired on Olympic broadcasts worldwide in 2010 and 2012.

Dr. Wells has a PhD in Physiology, served as an Associate Professor of Kinesiology at the University of Toronto and is an exercise medicine researcher at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto.

He is the CEO and founder of The Wells Group, a global consulting firm committed to achieving the moonshot of helping teams, schools and businesses become places where people get healthy, perform optimally and ultimately - reach their potential.

http://www.drgregwells.com
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